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	<title>Comments on: The ‘Like’ data charade</title>
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	<description>taking joy in the popping of the social media bubble &#38; other web 2.0 silliness</description>
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		<title>By: AJ Kohn</title>
		<link>http://www.shootingatbubbles.com/archives/the-like-data-charade/comment-page-1/#comment-20701</link>
		<dc:creator>AJ Kohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 15:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spot on Steven.

The idea that the social data collected is going to be accurate and useful is a stretch. People &lt;em&gt;are&lt;/em&gt; censoring or filtering their own overt behavior to appear a certain way.

They want to keep up with the other cool kids. Peer pressure looms in the like landscape. While many hope for a world where people express their unique individuality without fear or embarrassment - that&#039;s a long way off and it&#039;s folly to think that a new open graph infrastructure will change deeply rooted mental modes. 

I wrote about the fool&#039;s gold of Facebook data nearly a year ago (http://www.blindfiveyearold.com/facebook-data-gold-or-pyrite) but your post puts a spotlight on the potential further degradation of that data through the implementation of the like button.

Will marketers pay for this data? Absolutely. But how much will be a product of how effectively they can use the data. I&#039;m still not sure it&#039;s &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; useful, and once targeted by marketers, how long until users further curtail and censor their social activity?
.-= AJ Kohn´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blindfiveyearold.com/top-tweets-is-a-trojan-frog&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Top Tweets is a Trojan Frog&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot on Steven.</p>
<p>The idea that the social data collected is going to be accurate and useful is a stretch. People <em>are</em> censoring or filtering their own overt behavior to appear a certain way.</p>
<p>They want to keep up with the other cool kids. Peer pressure looms in the like landscape. While many hope for a world where people express their unique individuality without fear or embarrassment &#8211; that&#8217;s a long way off and it&#8217;s folly to think that a new open graph infrastructure will change deeply rooted mental modes. </p>
<p>I wrote about the fool&#8217;s gold of Facebook data nearly a year ago (<a href="http://www.blindfiveyearold.com/facebook-data-gold-or-pyrite" rel="nofollow">http://www.blindfiveyearold.com/facebook-data-gold-or-pyrite</a>) but your post puts a spotlight on the potential further degradation of that data through the implementation of the like button.</p>
<p>Will marketers pay for this data? Absolutely. But how much will be a product of how effectively they can use the data. I&#8217;m still not sure it&#8217;s <i>that</i> useful, and once targeted by marketers, how long until users further curtail and censor their social activity?<br />
.-= AJ Kohn´s last blog ..<a href="http://www.blindfiveyearold.com/top-tweets-is-a-trojan-frog" rel="nofollow">Top Tweets is a Trojan Frog</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler Hurst</title>
		<link>http://www.shootingatbubbles.com/archives/the-like-data-charade/comment-page-1/#comment-20679</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyler Hurst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 23:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Social media and all its tangents don&#039;t exist if we don&#039;t talk about them.
.-= Tyler Hurst´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TylerSays/~3/oy_nOE5m4TM/all-out-audience&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;All Out – The Audience&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Social media and all its tangents don&#8217;t exist if we don&#8217;t talk about them.<br />
.-= Tyler Hurst´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TylerSays/~3/oy_nOE5m4TM/all-out-audience" rel="nofollow">All Out – The Audience</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Louis Gray</title>
		<link>http://www.shootingatbubbles.com/archives/the-like-data-charade/comment-page-1/#comment-20674</link>
		<dc:creator>Louis Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 20:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One difference? I asked if people did it and Robert says he is doing it. :)
.-= Louis Gray´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.louisgray.com/2010/05/hey-iphone-forward-all-my-calls-to.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hey iPhone, Forward All My Calls (To Android)&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One difference? I asked if people did it and Robert says he is doing it. <img src='http://www.shootingatbubbles.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
.-= Louis Gray´s last blog ..<a href="http://blog.louisgray.com/2010/05/hey-iphone-forward-all-my-calls-to.html" rel="nofollow">Hey iPhone, Forward All My Calls (To Android)</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.shootingatbubbles.com/archives/the-like-data-charade/comment-page-1/#comment-20673</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 20:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve thought about this every now and then when reading friends 4-square posts. Always the cool and never the mundane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve thought about this every now and then when reading friends 4-square posts. Always the cool and never the mundane.</p>
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		<title>By: Webomatica</title>
		<link>http://www.shootingatbubbles.com/archives/the-like-data-charade/comment-page-1/#comment-20672</link>
		<dc:creator>Webomatica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 20:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The modern day variation of people paying cash for that seedy motel so it won&#039;t show up on the credit card?
.-= Webomatica´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/webomatica/~3/awVOulCuhmc/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Apple WWDC Hopes&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The modern day variation of people paying cash for that seedy motel so it won&#8217;t show up on the credit card?<br />
.-= Webomatica´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/webomatica/~3/awVOulCuhmc/" rel="nofollow">Apple WWDC Hopes</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: John E. Bredehoft</title>
		<link>http://www.shootingatbubbles.com/archives/the-like-data-charade/comment-page-1/#comment-20671</link>
		<dc:creator>John E. Bredehoft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 19:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I missed Gray&#039;s post when it came out, but I was one of his sources. I believe that it was on FriendFeed that I commented that I did not check into every place that I visit, and Gray questioned me on it. In my case, I censor my visits to fast food places. 

I also censor visits to places where other family members are involved. For example, I have never checked in at my daughter&#039;s school, and if my wife were to go and visit a doctor, I probably wouldn&#039;t check in there either.

However, this censorship doesn&#039;t necessarily mean that the data is completely useless. While the check-in feed is not an accurate portrayal of where most of us spend our time, the fact that we are willing to associate our names with certain places DOES have its benefits. Think about it - if Burger King only takes my money but I don&#039;t openly brag about Burger King food, their benefit from my patronage is minimal. But if Foursquare can get me to rave about SnootyUberCool Bar &amp; Disco, then more people are going to hear about it. 

And it&#039;s better to have customers that talk about you, rather than customers who keep their patronage a deep dark secret.
.-= John E. Bredehoft´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Empoprise-bi/~3/hVLAVMk5aKU/when-will-microsoft-give-birth-to-natal.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;When will Microsoft give birth to Natal?&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I missed Gray&#8217;s post when it came out, but I was one of his sources. I believe that it was on FriendFeed that I commented that I did not check into every place that I visit, and Gray questioned me on it. In my case, I censor my visits to fast food places. </p>
<p>I also censor visits to places where other family members are involved. For example, I have never checked in at my daughter&#8217;s school, and if my wife were to go and visit a doctor, I probably wouldn&#8217;t check in there either.</p>
<p>However, this censorship doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean that the data is completely useless. While the check-in feed is not an accurate portrayal of where most of us spend our time, the fact that we are willing to associate our names with certain places DOES have its benefits. Think about it &#8211; if Burger King only takes my money but I don&#8217;t openly brag about Burger King food, their benefit from my patronage is minimal. But if Foursquare can get me to rave about SnootyUberCool Bar &amp; Disco, then more people are going to hear about it. </p>
<p>And it&#8217;s better to have customers that talk about you, rather than customers who keep their patronage a deep dark secret.<br />
.-= John E. Bredehoft´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Empoprise-bi/~3/hVLAVMk5aKU/when-will-microsoft-give-birth-to-natal.html" rel="nofollow">When will Microsoft give birth to Natal?</a> =-.</p>
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