Posts with tag "ranking"

A need for a new blog ranking system

rankings_lg We might not want to admit in public but bloggers; especially those doing it as a career, liked having a ranking system that we use to get with Technorati. I say use to because whether they might not want to admit it or not Technorati isn’t really relevant anymore. Still though we flash that Technorati chicklet in our sidebars like it does mean something.

The thing is that between the service being severely gamed into uselessness the whole new media arena, of which blogs are only a part of now, has changed dramatically. Links, the very commodity by which we figured out our worth within the blogosphere have changed. They have grown beyond the blogs and into metric powerhouses on other new media services.

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Listening?

You might not want to see you but we are there I am coming to a firm conclusion that unless you are in the top 1% of the tech blogosphere no-one is listening to you – at all.

Sure those of us working our way up the blogging ranks have our faithful readers – and thank goodness for every single one of you – but when it comes to dealing with businesses and to some degree that 1% of big name bloggers we don’t exist. The only time that might change is if you write something totally outrageous or insulting at which point you might get a moment of their attention. All those times you write nice things or even posts that are directly related; and linked, to something they have talked about don’t expect any reaction because chances are that they are too important to even make a comment.

A case in point is regarding a post I had on Mashable last Friday about sponsorships and it being a viable way for bloggers to monetize their content. In that post and in a follow up one here on WinExtra I used NewsGator as a prime example of my points I was trying to make. Now on Thursday I emailed Nick Bradbury who is the author of FeedDemon which is owned by NewsGator for his reaction on the sponsorship idea and at the same time I also emailed NewsGator through one of their contact email addresses for their thoughts.

Within at least twenty minutes I had a response from Nick which I then quoted in part in both of the posts. The response from NewsGator? I’m still waiting.

Would Michael Arrington or Robert Scoble have been ignored this way if they had contacted NewsGator and asked the same question? I would be willing to bet my next years AdSense pennies that they would have gotten a reply within .. oh .. let’s be generous and say … umm .. ten minutes. On top of that I bet they would have gotten a sponsorship offer to go with it.

In another instance I wrote a post about one of our bigger name bloggers who appeared to be having a hard time finding any inspiration to spark his creative juices. In the post I made a few suggestions that I believed would provide more than enough inspiration to be able to kick start him and even though even a comment from this blogger would have been nice I knew that the likelihood of this happening was next to nil. I know that that if someone like Doc Searls or Stowe Boyd had written the same post this blogger would have been in there like a dirty shirt.

So what is the take away from all this?

Simple – keep on writing the way you are and treasure every single reader you have but don’t expect anything beyond that point. Keep slugging away doing what you are doing and try to keep that passion for what you are doing alive but never ignore those folks that have followed you from the beginning.

While NewsGator may not care if I exist I know there are companies out there who will answer my emails and it is those companies that will always have priority as I grow. I have an ever growing circle of bloggers who I know that will always come first on my list and whose opinion I value more than the 1%’ers.

This isn’t meant to be whiney post even though some will see at such. If anything it is more of a note of encouragement to bloggers outside of the 1% that even though it can be discouraging sometimes when we feel like nobody is listening the fact is that we do have an audience. It is that audience that has grown in size as we have gotten better at our craft and it is that audience that will always be the most important one so never forget them.

And for the 1′ers .. it might be easy to ignore us now but it is always a good thing to remember that there are more of us than you and being ignored can work both ways.

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Technorati – a way forward

Technorati Over the past little while there has been  quite a bit of talk about new Top 100 lists with people like TechCrunch, Gabe Rivera and Robert Scoble mashing up Google Reader numbers or Techmeme coming out with the Leaderboard. All through this has been a background thread about how Technorati was falling by the wayside as a reliable service to use.

Well I for one; even with it’s recent struggling, like Technorati and like a lot of bloggers have something of an investment in it. After all it is holding almost a year’s worth of tagged posts from WinExtra within its database. While that may not be all that valuable at this moment it could be in the long tail. The value may not necessarily be monetary; although as traffic increases that does change, but more the value of conversation and ideas.

During the last week Doug Karr had a piece he wrote on his feelings about Technorati which saw Ian Kallen from Technorati comment on Doug’s thoughts. Then yesterday I posted about a slightly larger issue of the A-List and the whole ranking thing. This morning I found that Ian had been good enough to join in the conversation and I set about replying to his comment only to find that what was starting as a reply developed into more of a post so Ian here is my reply to your comment :)

Ian,

First off as a blog low on the pecking order thanks for taking the time to add your voice to the conversation here – I appreciate your feedback as well.

As for the pecking order I see nothing wrong with it at all even if WinExtra would be considered as one occupying a lower spot in that order. As Doug Karr pointed out and I totally agree with this is a good thing as it gives all of us a metric by which we can gauge the success; or failure, of what we are doing.

The problem as you point out is with the pecking order criteria and how it is arrived at and then implemented. I think one thing that is missing is our involvement with that process. As it stands right now Technorati is the deciding force in what is considered as a blog or a as a splog. Could it possibly be that this is one area where Technorati could benefit from a crowdsourcing philosophy where we the user’s of  Technorati have some method by which we could flag a linked site as a possible splog? I know there have been more than a few splog/blogs that I didn’t want as part of my Authority “trail”.

I understand the problem as well trying to figure out the segmentation criteria. We have mainstream media daily hopping on the blog bandwagon and because of their natural big name drawing power they are helping to push the traditional and small blogs out of the stream of conversation. Along with that you have the new media conglomerates blogs like TechCrunch and others that are competing against the traditional mainstream media move which again is taking the conversation flow away from smaller blogs.

I don’t envy Technorati’s situation at this point as it is also having to stay alive in an increasingly active field of metrics. I do think that the company has two very big strengths. The first one is the long time blogger following that has developed around Technorati and while in the past year the company seems to have been more interested is abandoning us for the larger (and unattainable I am afraid) search industry I do believe that the core service of providing a stable and reliable ranking service not only benefits bloggers but it will also provide internet users with a valuable resource as the blogging field becomes even more mainstream.

The other area where I think Technorati is ahead of the field is its growing data of tagged information. To me this primarily untapped resource has potential both now and for the future. As I pointed out in my post on Ideastreaming give me a RSS hook into a tag or even a series of tags. Let me have a way to see what has been written, is being written and a way to be updated on new additions to that tagged stream of ideas/conversations. Heck let’s get really crazy here and how about an advertising platform based on tags. Let advertisers hook into the tagging system and provide ads based around conversations.

I really believe that Technorati has all the pieces to the puzzle; some of which may not even be apparent yet, but one thing is for sure – blogging will be a growth industry. Even as the current early adopter type A-Listers hop skip and jump to the next shiny new thing the core of serious bloggers will continue to grow and services like Technorati could be an integral part of that growth.


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There’s nothing wrong with rankings – it’s natural

Live and die by the top whatever Top 10, Top 100 etc etc etc … it doesn’t where you look in our society whether it be online or off – rankings of one sort or another are an integral part of our social interaction as well as how we place ourselves in the scheme of  things.

We love to rank things; whether it is the best restaurants in the world to the top 100 albums of all time and everything in between, because of our innate need to always have something better to shoot for. In raw terms it gives us something to live for.

Everything in our society is based on rankings from our place in the social class system to our place in the workforce. We get rewarded whenever we move up in the rankings. Sometimes those rewards are monetary and sometimes they are nothing more than public bragging rights.

In the tech blogosphere rankings is something that many like to deny even exists and if it does it isn’t important. Well they obviously haven’t yet heard of the newest type of ranking to hit all courtesy of startup Xobni and their plugin application for the Outlook email client. Apparently part of the Xobni application assigns a rank to each of your email contacts based on a ratio of incoming and outgoing email. It is the new hot game to be hitting tech related offices – who’s your number one.

This is one reason why I laugh my ass off every time someone in the tech blogosphere tries to deny or downgrade the value of the so-called Technorati Ranking system. Ya sure, the idea might offend the tender sensibility of some of the goodie two shoe bloggers but others will do it because they are doing everything to protect their ranking turf.

The problem right now in the tech blogosphere is that bloggers are getting gun shy of even having a ranking system because of this belittlement of it by those that are already at the top of the food chain. It hasn’t helped either that the basic human nature of gaming any ranking system in order to falsely increase one’s rank has also had a negative effect.

Both the protecting of top place turf and this gaming of the system has made it difficult to have an honest system for the rest of us to work with. Hell it has even scared of Technorati to the point they are destroying the company by trying to do everything they can to remove the idea of rankings.

It doesn’t matter if you change the name to something stupid like social graph or be up front and call it what it is – rankings the point is that this is a natural part of our makeup so let’s cut the crap and work towards a good honest ranking system with all the checks and balances needed to keep it honest. On top of that let’s quit lying to each other about how unimportant rankings are regardless of the bull being fed to us by those that don’t want their turf (money flow) threatened.


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Well, it looks like sh!t is going to hit the b’sphere fan

there they go again moving the bullseye You hear a lot of bloggers bitch an complain about there being or not being a Technorati A-List. Now being added to the mix is the fact that some bloggers .. err social media writers .. errr hmmm … jeez now I’m totally lost. Just what are we anymore?

Anyway back to this discussion going on. Apparently Steve Rubel; a very smart man by some folks opinion, has come up with an idea for a new metric for us to measure influencer by so we can create a new A-List and the such. In a post called Crowdsourcing a New System for Measuring Influence Steve outlines the idea of this new metric that is being called Social Media Index and is laid out in full on SixtySecondView.

From what I can see this Social Media Index is made up from analyzed Google Rank, number of Facebook friends, number of Twitter friends, number of contacts on LinkedIn and even including items like number of photos on Flickr and number of digg’ed items or del.icio.us  book-marked posts. This is all thrown together out of which they come up with your Social Media Index.

The reasoning behind this apparently is that with the increasingly broadening field of conversation and friends the measuring of influence can no longer just be measured by one’s Technorati rank. Now this is all well and nice but I have a problem with it. It is an known fact that for bloggers who are trying to monetize their work the use of their Technorati rank is a measuring stick.

I agree that this is very quickly becoming a useless metric but the metric being proposed by Steve Rubel and SixtySecondReview is assuming that all bloggers who want to either be an influencer or monetize their work are going to have things like a Facebook page, or a Flickr account or even belong to LinkedIn. What happens to those that don’t want to do all this – their are going to be at an immediate disadvantage.

I might have a Facebook page but I don’t want thousands of friends. I might have a Twitter page but it means more to me than just having a thousand friends. I don’t take pictures so I’m not going to have a Flickr account. So already I am basically screwed – even more so than under the Technorati scheme of things but at least that I can work at.

This idea doesn’t even take into account the basic human nature of gaming the system to benefit your Social Media Index. We think the spamming of the current system is bad just wait. How long do you think it would take to upload thousands of pictures to Flickr or to send out hundreds of “make me your Friend” on Twitter or on Facebook and if you don’t think this will happen then you’ve been smoking some damn good stuff.

I agree that a new metric is needed but anything that is brought in to replace the current system had better take well into account this basic human action right from the very beginning. As for the Social Media Index all I see is it making it harder for the little guy/gal to make it to the top.

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