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Linking and the creating of a community

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Darren Rowse has an excellent post today at ProBlogger where he talks about linking. It was a post that was prompted by the replies to a comment that he had made on Twitter:

“A change I’ve noticed from the ‘old days’ of blogging – people don’t link when they quote you as much as they used to.”

He then went on to list some of the reasons he was given as to why links were becoming less used. Here they are in point form so I suggest reading the original post for further explanation behind the reasons which are:

  • Competition
  • PageRank Sculpting
  • Laziness and/or Forgetfulness
  • Ignorance
  • Or have things just changed.

Darren follows that up with the reasons why he still links out

  • Etiquette/Manners/Courtesy
  • Usefulness
  • It makes the web better
  • The Power of Links to Build Relationships
  • Outbound links and SEO

The post is well worth reading because I tend to agree with Darren that indeed there seems to be a lot less linking going on and this isn’t a good thing to have happen. Sure we can get all introspective as to the reasons why just as we can espouse all the reasons why we should; however linking all boils down to a couple of things.

I don’t care about the SEO crap and yes things like etiquette are important but when it comes right down to it linking out does one of the most important things we can do as human beings.

It shows respect.

By linking either as an inline accent to your train of thought or as the prelim to a quote that link to the original source of either the quote or someone’s idea that helped you clarify your own thoughts you are showing respect for their work or thoughts. Just as you would hope that your ideas and conversations are respected for where they take other people so do those that you link to.

As well links are the neural connections of all the conversations that happen on the web. By denying that neural pathway you are in effect diminishing the value of the conversation and the people involved in it. There is an old saying that blood is thicker than water and considering the fact that links are the life blood of the conversation by not creating those links we end up diluting the conversation.

Respect, folks – you expect it so do the right thing and show your respect back and help the life blood of the web to keep flowing.

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From the Pipeline – 9.15.08

I really dislike the monthly trip to the doctor’s. Not so much for the non-news or the needle I get but for the fact that I spend the rest of the day once I get back home in a state of catch-up. Anyway I got caught up enough to have found some good stuff in today’s FriendFeed pipeline for you to peruse.

Why I Stopped Reading Blogs (for a while) :: Common Craft – a really good look at why sometimes it doesn’t hurt to take a break from all of these social media toys – gives you a chance to re-assess which is a good thing.

Drudge Report: News Site That Sends Readers Away With Links Has Highest Engagement :: Publishing 2.0 – I remember having long discussions with a good friend over this whole thing – he was a big believer in that links should open to new browser windows – I was never to sure about it.

How Long Could You Survive Chained to a Bunk Bed with a Velociraptor? :: Bunkbeds.net – this has got to be one of the more interesting ways to get the word out about a site … so .. how long would you last?

Future Employers May Be Checking Your Facebook Account :: StarterTech – I have always been; and continue to be a believer that these kids using Facebook like it was a spring break party diary have no idea just how this is going to come back and bite them on the ass.

The 7 Deadly Sins of Social Media :: Convince & Convert – some pretty good questions / answers.

Hubble Finds a Mystery Object :: Sky and Telescope – and this is the telescope that they want to mothball and never replace .. brilliant.

The Hoff Soap Dispenser :: Flickr – I blame Mona on FriendFeed for cursing our visual centers with this abomination :)

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The Sorry State of Linking & Attribution

Mainstream media doesn't only slight bloggers but their own as well If you ask any blogger what they think the very blood of what keeps the blogosphere alive is and the large majority of them would probably answer – links. Whether it be links to outside posts or to point to where quotes have originated from links have been the very basis by which we as writers provide credit and as a way for the reader to verify what we have written. In general this idea of linking has been a fair way to make sure that proper attributions are made. Yes in some cases this has not always worked out with some blogs practicing what is called deep linking – which means they link to previous posts published by that blog instead of outlinking to the person who is the actual originator of the subject being talked about.

This type of thing has resulted in more than a few angry posts by bloggers who rightly feel that they have been slighted or other bloggers who lambaste these blogs who use excessive deep linking in order to boost their own pageviews rather than doing the right thing by linking to originating authors. Interestingly enough to blog posts showed up today that once again take a look at this phenomena. The posts look at this from two different points of view but the culprit in both cases isn’t bloggers but rather the mainstream media outlets that like to point out how they are better than bloggers because they have ethics that one doesn’t see in the blogging world.

The first post comes from David Eaves on his blog called The SEO Company [nw] (**) where he does a really good examination of the big players in our mainstream media and just how they treat blogging; or other online sources, with outlinks back to the originating sources from their main stories and from their onsite blogs. His survey – which you can see in full here – covered a total of 26 mainstream media outlets from around the world.

Of all of them only BBC, New York Times, Guardian, Times Online, Telegraph, Mirror and Metro outlinked from both their main stories as well as from their onsite blogs. Those that didn’t do any outlinking at all were The Sun, News of the World, Daily Star and Sunday Mail. the rest of those sampled; which included CNN, Wall Street Journal, USA Today and Los Angeles Times, never outlinked from their main stories but did from their onsite blogs.

To be fair Dave did reach out to some of the editors of these online versions of the Mainstream Media outlets with much of the excuses being that while they might like to outlink the fact is that they consider blogs to be inherently unreliable. As James Montgomery an editor with FT.com said

Obviously, we are more inclined to believe some sources (Reuters) than others (chat rooms). Many blogs might be regarded as inherently unreliable because they don’t reveal their sources or uphold traditional journalistic/MSM standards of reporting (eg, double sourcing, on the record or whatever).

This though is an attitude that bloggers are more than use to dealing with. It can be frustrating and in most cases – especially considering the some of the bigger blogs have a very good record of sourcing their work – but what happens when Mainstream Media outlets blatantly treat their fellow respectable journalists the same way.

Such is a case reported by Philipp Lenssen over on Google Blogoscoped where he let’s know about a story that appeared in money.co.uk that looked suspiciously similar to one had actually been written by Patrick Collinson of the Guardian but nowhere in the money.co.uk article did any credit of any type appear. As the originator of the story Patrick Collinson said to Philipp when asked about it

“I personally have not had any communication from this website about the article I wrote.” He notes Money.co.uk wasn’t the biggest offender though. “The [Daily Mail] took the story in its entirety, including the quotes I had obtained from my source, and printed it as their front page splash. What was truly shocking was that they splashed the word ’exclusive’ on their front page about the story.” He adds, “I personally have no problem with other newspapers following up my stories. I spend lots of time following up other newspaper’s stories. But lifting a story then calling it your own exclusive is pretty sad.”

This post isn’t to suggest that just because the mainstream media seems to think it is alright to lift story ideas without proper credit being given that it is alright for the blogosphere to do the same. If anything it is things like this that should in fact make us strive to provide a better example of how news and opinion should be written. It is time top show MSM that us upstarts in this age of information have a better sense of ethics that those who would call us unsubstantiated bloggers.

I think that would be a great way to show old media how news is really shared with the people and our friends in the business. How about you?

(**) – bad blogger notice here – I had neglected to add the original link back to Dave’s post that started all of this. I has been fixed and I also apologize to Dave over than oversight.

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Content my ass – it’s the power links

It's all in the linkage It never fails that at some point when discussion on how to make your blog popular is held it is suggested that all you need is content, content and more content. Well, have you ever noticed that it’s usually the bloggers that have already reached that popular top tier that are saying this. At the same time they are telling you not to worry about linking so much. In fact according to Jeremiah Owyang you should be adding substance and not worry about linking to Techmeme headliners.

Well that might be easy for him to suggest since he already probably gets more readers in one day than any blogger – new or otherwise unknown – will see in months.

You could write War & Peace as a blog post but unless you have the traffic it won’t matter because no-one is going to see it; but should some-one like Robert Scoble, Jeremiah or any top tier blogger discover you, your readership will go through the roof – well comparatively anyway.

As Louis Gray points out in a post “it seems that those of us without the big brand names (yet) just might break a story or have original reporting, but proving that to a faceless algorithm is nearly impossible. As a result, to gain the real estate that’s felt to be deserved, a little link play is needed

Now I am not suggesting that you become a link whore but there is nothing wrong with trying to raise your profile by using some smart linking to discussion leaders whether it be through Techmeme or their blog postings. It is that type of linking that I refer to as power links and as long as you are using it to raise your profile with good content or adding to the conversation then there is nothing wrong with the practice.

It you don’t find that working for you well there is always this list of top 10 things for new bloggers to understand over at Vaspers. In the meantime keep up the content and more power to the use of power links.


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Blogging and the Art of Conversation

Just my own opinion Being one of the fairly new kids on the blogging block; given that Dave Winer is coming up on 10 years and I’m still a month or so off from my first one, I tend to read many of the posts written about blogging. I even read the ones from sites that in my opinion play on the borderline of gaming Technorati and Google. I like learning all that I can about what I would like to think is my new profession picked up at my mid-life period.

When I first started off one of the big pointers I picked up from even the big boy’s (don’t want to use that nasty A-List word and irritate the wrong folks – again) was that besides writing good solid content you should make sure to link back to those self same big boys. The reasoning for this was it would raise your profile quicker on Technorati because every one knows that those big boys get all the readership – and if you link to them you just might be lucky and pick up some readers from them.

Needless to say I am one who is always willing to try out suggestions from those that are suppose to be in the know about these things and followed along the gravy train of linkage. I can still remember that first rush of getting a linkback from Robert Scoble or being told by Om Malik that I was now a part of his reading.

Time has passed since then and while it is still rewarding to be getting backlinks from Robert and other movers and shakers I been wondering if the long term value of concentrating on the big boy feeding pool to grow your readership is all that it is cracked up to be. Maybe in the beginning there is value in the practice but I’ve come to think that the staying power of those links aren’t the same as ones that you might get from the B-List or even the C-List bloggers.

The reason I say this is that I watch my referrer logs, probably like a lot of bloggers and I also look for follow-up reading movement of incoming visitors. I have noticed something by doing this and that is that visitors coming in from a big boy backlink typically read the linked post and then are gone. Whereas visitors from lesser known blogs seem to explore the blog when they’ve finished with the linked post. Granted I can only infer this by following their movements between pages in the referrer logs.

I have also noticed that comments tend to be made by those self same people – again I can only infer this from IP addresses and the logs files but if this is the case one has to wonder if totally concentrating on linking to the big boys is the best way to grow. After all blogging is not just about rehashing existing news or just expounding your own thoughts. It is also a way to have a conversation about that news or those ideas. This is why we have links and trackbacks – they are are methods of letting other bloggers know that we are joining in with their conversation; or them joining in with one of yours.

Which is why there is a segment of the blogging world that feels that when bloggers turn off comments and/or trackbacks those blogs are no longer really blogs because they are removing themselves from the larger conversation. It is very hard to learn in a vacuum and by removing those to feedback mechanisms you deny yourself a part of the learning process. For another thought on trackbacks I would suggest giving Paul O’Flaherty’s post Is the trackback dead? Only if you are selfish. He gives additional good reasons why turning them off is a bad idea.

I think that from what I have seen and read in the comparatively short time I’ve been blogging that there are two separate and distinct link types. The first while it may benefit new bloggers if used right has only short term value. The traffic generated by linking back to a big boy blog may give you a nice rush and a short spike in your numbers but I don’t believe that they give you the long term benefits that you get from the second type.

This second type of linkage comes only when you take the time and venture outside of the big boy feeding pool and go looking for the conversations. Even thought the benefits may not be as immediate or give that same type of thrill as being noticed by the big boys there will come a point where it doesn’t matter anymore because you are having conversations and you are learning. Rehashing news or massaging egos won’t do that for you.

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Trust Robert to start a firestorm

Robert Scoble in disguise And here I thought it was going to be another boring and quiet weekend in the b’sphere; but then Robert got a little pissed off and started a firestorm that is still going.

The problem is that usually when Robert opens up with the 12 gauge and starts firing it can have two varying effects. It either gets a really good discussion going about his latest rant or it brings out the “Robert is a narcissistic egotistical dork” crowd who line up to take pot shots.

His latest rant is about the lack of influential bloggers backlinking to other blogs and instead linking to MSM publications that in many cases have little or no respect for bloggers. Like most of his rants Robert has shot from the hip and then spent the following days cleaning up and correcting himself if he has been pointed out to be wrong.

I’m not going to get involved with the bickering that usually evolves from his rants; visit his comments to get your fill of that, but I do think that a valid point has been raised and should be looked at.

Blogging does not exist in a vacuum and neither does the sharing of information or ideas. Since the whole idea of blogging is this sharing the idea of not sharing as well the originating site of the idea/thought is wrong.

I know myself I sometime fall into the trap of quoting and linking to a MSM publication even when I have gotten the germ of the post idea from a fellow blogger. In this I am very wrong and as of today; and this post, it stops. I’m not sure exactly how I want to be able to provide a post bibliography but I’ll work on it.

Another important aspect of this to is the idea of post fallout. We often read a story or get and idea and rush to write it and post it. Get it to the b’sphere as quickly as possible; but in a lot of ways this does nothing to help grow the discussion in any meaningful way especially if; for most bloggers below the A-List, we are just rehashing something.

What if we took a moment and fired up Technorati, Techmeme or Tailrank and did a quick search to find some additional bloggers who are talking about the same thing. What if then we added them as additional resource links to the post. Would this add to the discussion, would it expand our areas of idea sharing?

Thanks Robert and lets all get back to sharing and growing.

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