Posts with tag "Dave Winer"

Adding TechJunk as one of my always open tabs

Dave Winer's TechJunk news aggregator Not too long ago Dave Winer came out with a new service for parsing what was hot and fresh in the political news stream and called it NewsJunk. Well it turns out that he wasn’t satisfied with just serving up political stuff as he also had a bitch about how tech related product release news was being passed over by the other major aggregating services. So this morning we were introduced to the TechJunk version [nw] of NewsJunk; which sported the same plain jane user interface.

Now I might not be the biggest Dave Winer fan out there but I will say that this project of his could very well fill a need for news junkies like myself. With its simple see everything new at a glance look TechJunk can sit quietly in the background updating with the newest product related news that is happening out there. While I do wish it had an auto refresh I will probably be having it as another of my permanently open browser tabs in FeedDemon along with FriendFeed.

Good job Dave.

TechJunk Page [nw]

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Please Gabe don’t listen to Dave

Dave Winer One has to wonder sometimes what exactly goes through the minds of some smart people. One minute they can be saying completely intelligible things that have us in awe of their lucid thoughts and the next they sound like they couldn’t connect the dots if their lives depended on it. Sometimes the disconnect is so painfully obvious that you just sit there scratching your head and wondering WTF were they thinking of. Other times you stop for a second and think maybe – just maybe they are having fun with you and forgot to smirk or something before realizing that no they really have made absolutely no sense whatsoever.

A case in point is a conversation that was started yesterday on FriendFeed by Dave Winer where he decided it was time once again to revitalized the same old Techmeme bitchmeme – well it was the weekend after all so what else is there to do eh. Anyway his opening salvo to get everything started was this gem

“Ever notice how new products almost never make it on TechMeme these days. They don’t even appear. This is loop back to why I started blogging. The industry press was ignoring the interesting stuff and only paying attention to what the BigCos were doing. Time for a new route-around coming soon?”

Which was followed shortly afterwards with this mish mash of words

I don’t feel a need to reinvent the web inside of FF. However it is part of what I do, in the same way Twitter is. I like FF better, but only marginally better. It’s very far from the ideal. None of these guys have managed to combine all the elements the way plain old HTML does it so well. It’s nice in some ways but a big step backward in others

When I read the second one I had to stop for a minute and double check exactly what the starting point of this conversation was because this was something that looked like it had staggered in from left field like a bad drunk. Besides the fact that it had absolutely nothing to do with the supposed conversation at hand it didn’t even make sense as a standalone piece of text. Well maybe it did in a Steve Gillmor on TechCrunch sort of way but not here that is for sure.

Even when Louis Gray pointed out that Techmeme did indeed show representation to startups if they were good enough; or bad enough, to garner attention from the blogosphere Dave couldn’t resist showing his me-ism again.

Louis:

Dave: I disagree to a point. If you look at Techmeme stories from my blog in May and June alone, you can see stories on Loud3r, Feedly, Disqus, Sezwho, FFToGo, and Shyftr, for example. It could be that Techmeme is accurately monitoring the most discussed blogs, and that the vast majority of these blogs are talking less about new products.

Dave:

Louis — that’s kind of the point — those products didn’t launch well, and with no slight to you — I haven’t heard of them because I depend on TechMeme to tell me what’s important in the tech world. TechMeme does what it does well, but it has some real limits and the industry has shaped around those limits, just as the industry shaped around the limits of the press in the pre-Internet era and during the browser and Java wars in the 90s

The point here is that Louis pointed out some valid cases where Techmeme did do what it was programmed to do and as result those startups mentioned by Louis did make onto Techmeme. Just because Dave didn’t see them doesn’t mean that it didn’t happen – or does it? How anyone could have missed the dust up that hit everywhere; Techmeme included, over Shyftr is beyond me but Dave seems to which should make the Shyftr team pretty happy since that means all that negative discussion over their service never happened.

Now I’m not a big user of Techmeme but I do drop by the site at least three or four times a week when I’m bored and there is nothing else to read but I have seen plenty of product announcement or at least product launches being talked about by bloggers. Whether it has been Adobe AIR or another one of those minor little programs like Vista right through to NoiseRiver if it is being talked about in the blogosphere it shows up on Techmeme. Mind you this might not be the same blogosphere that Dave wanders around in but it seems to work for the rest of us just fine.

Is Techmeme perfect – probably not but what it was designed for it does a great job even if at times it seems to be more of an echo chamber. That isn’t the fault of Techmeme though. If any blame is to be passed around for that it is the bloggers with nothing of value to add other than practicing their cut ‘n paste skills. Sure there are things we all would like service like Techmeme to do especially if it means we get more eyeballs out of it but that doesn’t mean that the service needs to be screwed with.

Could Techmeme be expanded up by giving us more segments of the tech blogosphere as individual memes – probably but chances are that even then some wouldn’t be happy. I do give Gabe credit though for at least listening and trying to figure out the best way to try and keep everyone happy but the fact is he won’t be able to.

In the end it boils down to this – Gabe you keep doing what you are doing. Tweak Techmeme where you think it needs it and add where you think it will best serve your brand and the community but think twice about listening to people who are probably just pissed because their products didn’t get enough Techmeme time.

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Twitter: IRC with a new shade of lipstick

twitter_bird There is no denying that Twitter is the darling of Web 2.0 that as I pointed out yesterday is doing some heavy petting with the mainstream. Even though in a previous post where I questioned its ability to go mainstream I have come to realize that it really is sitting on the fence to major acceptance. The problem is that Twitter has an ongoing dance with instability as it is as well known as the service itself. This had lead to many discussions regarding how best to deal with this stability problem.

Whether it is Dave Winer who suggests that the data is the most important and should be decentralized or whether it is Scott Hanselman who is calling for an open Twitter like service that isn’t tied to one service. Then we have Hank Williams from the Why Does Everything Suck blog suggesting that Twitter as a company could go down the tubes if something like an open Twitter clone that uses the Twitter API gains momentum. Mathew Ingram uses Hank’s post along with the TechCrunch post on the matter as his way to question whether Twitter needs to be fixed or not.

As important as this whole idea of decentralizing Twitter seems to be to the Web 2.0 movers and shakers it only shows me that as we continue to use the service and have this conversation about decentralizing the service that is really is no different than the IRC (Internet Relay Chat) we have been using since long before the Internet. After all IRC is by its very nature is a decentralized communication service with IRC networks held together by servers around the world. Unless it is like a private IRC server such as the one I have run in the past most major IRC networks are multiple systems so that if one goes down there is another to switch to most of the time automatically (Netsplit anyone?).

Twitter & IRC - click for larger view

The fact is that when you really get down to brass tacks Twitter is nothing more than a dumbed down pretty interface than what IRC is. Where Twitter has three different types of communication channels so does IRC. If we take a look at similarities between the two we can really see that there is no difference between the two types of service other than the fact that Twitter is limited to what happens with the Twitterverse; whereas IRC is a completely open ended system.

The only thing that Twitter has done is moved the concept of IRC to an easily beautified user interface of HTML. This becomes doubly apparent with everyone talking about how Twitter needs to be decentralized. I guess this is one reason why I find it hard to become enamored with Twitter because it isn’t doing anything really new with communications. Whether or not decentralization of the service ever comes about I don’t know but whatever Twitter does; as well as the people involved with the Twitterverse that has developed around it, all they are doing is re-inventing something that has come before.

Sure sometimes re-inventing does make improvements and I guess that after a fashion Twitter has in effect made IRC something that is less arcane but I think that there is a much simpler solution for those folks who want to decentralize Twitter. All you would need is some clever developers to sit back and changed the IRC interface to one that is totally plain English rather than its current geek speak.

So what these folks like Dave Winer, Marc Canter and Michael Arrington would like to see happen to Twitter already exists it just needs some clever people to extend or add to it along with making the interface understandable and useable by regular folk. No need to re-invent the wheel once again – just improve it.

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Dave – you are a pompous ass

Dave Winer This post has kinda been stewing since I first Dave Winer’s post yesterday where he first preformed a drive-by character assassination without being man enough to use the real names of those involved (for the record it was about Gabe Rivera and Michael Arrington) and then went on to generally berate everyone who takes up the challenge to write down their thoughts on a daily basis about technology.

As far as Dave is concerned that unless you have taken computer science or have written code you should keep your mouth shut. Screw you Dave – I have taken courses and I have written code and I have never found that either of those two things have had any impact whatsoever on what I write about. Just because someone hasn’t written code doesn’t mean they don’t have valid viewpoints about Web 2.0, social networks or even whether a browser looks and acts like a piece of shit.

I’m sorry but this post was even more of linkbait in my opinion that the TechCrunch post you turned your pompous nose up at. As Frederic at The Last Podcast said in his post on this

But here is why I think this doesn’t make sense: technology isn’t just about code, it’s about users and enabling users (and doesn’t that sound like something Dave would say himself?). Those users can (and should) happily write about their experiences and I for one am glad Techmeme picks up on that.

Maybe you’ve been spending too many years on that high horse of yours Dave to see that more often these days you doing more to prove how much of a donkey’s ass you are instead of the thought leader you once were.

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From the Pipeline – 4.20.08

Well it looks like we got our bitchmeme this weekend after all courtesy of a post on TechCrunch that took a look at the data behind the Leaderboard 100; which for those that care WinExtra placed somewhere in the 70′s. In the meantime here’s some things that caught my eye on my FriendFeed pipeline.

Signal vs Noise :: SocialTech – Josie has some interesting thoughts on how some days that the signal to noise ratio might actually be the thing you need.

Sources: Microsoft Signs Letter Of Intent To Acquire Xobni :: TechCrunch – Michael lets us all know the news about Microsoft buying up Xobni – which is a plugin for Outlook to enhance its social media / networking abilities.

Twitter: Talk to us when things go bad :: The Last Podcast – Frederic has some advice for Twitter during its times of trouble – talk to us.

What does an algorithm think? :: Scripting News – Dave has another go at the supposed ties between Gabe Rivera and Michael Arrington (even though he won’t name the actual names) that enables TechCrunch to always be at the top of Techmeme.

Man builds rad trimaran sailboat in yard, now it’s stuck there :: CrunchGear – all I can say on this is – oopps

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Dave Winer, Sarah Jessica Parker and the Bandit

Dave take a holiday bud. Dave Winer is a bright man and has made some substantial contributions to the web and technology but lately he has become more senseless noise than anything else. Whether it be from his self-promotional claim of being a racist to his piece today railing against Wikipedia it is all beginning to sound more and more like whining desperation to stay relevant.

I have read Dave’s blog since almost day one of my getting involved with blogging. I subscribed to his Twitter feed the moment I found he had one; which wasn’t returned but that’s okay I understand I’m not important enough to warrant his attention. I also subscribed to him on FriendFeed when he made that available and the same with Disqus.

But that has changed as in the last little while I have unsubscribed from everything but his blog because the message – the conversation was becoming even more disjointed than valuable. Which is too bad because on the whole I had enjoyed the conversations that developed around Mr. Dave and his opinions.

When I first read his piece today where he bitch slaps Wikipedia once again for what he refers to as the vendetta against him and his accomplishments I felt the whiney line had been crossed for the last time. Now Mathew Ingram in his professional best wrote a post about what Dave had written, upon which Dave promptly jumped into the comments and called Mathew a hateful person and that he should be careful.

Well… regardless of the fact of whether or not there is a vendetta; which Frank Shaw suggests there is in the Wikipedia discussion area of Dave’s page, Dave doesn’t appreciate it when anyone comes out with an opinion that is counter to how he perceives himself. Now as much as I wanted to comment on all this I couldn’t seem to find the right hook for how this mess made me feel.

Then I was reading a post over on Deus Ex Malcontent where Chez was having a eloquent dissection of the Sarah Jessica Parker and Maxim spat that is going on. In his piece he used the allegory of the movie Smokey and The Bandit (1 & 2) to prove one of his points of his piece. As he puts it

The whole thing comes to a head in what I think is the pivotal moment in this particular story arc — the scene to which I’m referring.

At one point, the Bandit is forced to stop for gas — Trans-am drivers were familiar with this necessity — and that’s where he gets into a row with a clerk whom he believes is guilty of an unforgivable transgression: While the guy does, in fact, know just whose presence he’s being graced by — he’s aware of the Bandit’s status as a celebrity — he doesn’t give a shit. He thinks the Bandit’s an arrogant asshole. This snub causes the Bandit to throw a juvenile tantrum, grabbing the clerk by the throat and shouting in his face: “Women love me! Little kids love me! Now you’re gonna love me or I’m gonna kick your ass!”

That one line says everything you need to know about how those who’ve been in the spotlight too long — who’ve gotten used to the warm and comforting glow of perpetual adulation — can come to feel about themselves and their place in the cultural strata.

It’s called believing your own hype.

That’s when I clicked on the whole thing with Mr. Dave.

He has become self-absorbed in his own hype.

Whether or not it is deserved doesn’t matter anymore as he has created such a negative infrastructure around which to try and base a conversation that conversation is no longer an option.

Which is a sad thing because I am sure that Dave still has many things that he could contribute but due to this constant need to bolster his importance he thinks he has to do, any conversation will be centered around what he has or hasn’t done in the past – not what his doing now or could do in the future. In this case Dave has become his own worst enemy.

On top of that he is giving cranky old farts the world round a bad name. Take a vacation Dave – go sit on the beach in Hawaii – enjoy the scent of the mahalo flowers while sipping on something long, cool and refreshing. Even though my opinion counts for squat in your rarified world and you will probably label me as being hateful – like you did to Mathew – I still think you could have a lot to offer.

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Supposedly smart people can say the stupidest things

Dave Winer in action I realize that in the comments of one of my previous posts Jason from webomatica made mention that he wasn’t a big fan of my commentaries on the silliness that the supposedly intelligent bloggers of Dave Winer’s stature; even though he did say that they gave him a chuckle, but sometimes Jason I can’t help but say something when people like Dave make utterly stupid comments.

Today was one of those days when Dave should have stayed on his porch in his rocking chair commiserating over how the blogosphere use to be his own little playground where he invented everything. Instead though he goes on a bit of a tirade about the …mini-debate going on about whether podcasting is a success or worth it …which lead him off into left field about how his phone doesn’t have a business model as nor does his porch.

Now I don’t know about his porch not having a business model; which if he installed a red light I’m sure he could fix, but we’d better send out some smoke signals to AT&T, Verizon and any of the other billion dollar baby Bells that there’s no business models to be had with phones so they’d better get out while the getting is good.

I swear the way that Dave keeps putting his foot in his mouth lately one could make a good business model around a blog pointing out the brilliance according to Winer .. oh wait …. there is one already. Not to mention that gems like this from Dave aren’t a singular event. It seems that at some point so-called smart people in the tech world make some of the stupidest statements … hmmmm I wonder …….


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Apple really should put Dave Winer on commission

Have I got a deal for you .. and apple of course I was going to let the whole FlickrFan thing go after my post the other day about Dave Winer’s newest contribution to uselessness – really I was. Then today before I had even had a chance to finish up my first pot of coffee for the day I saw a post on Twitter from Jeff Pulver and a reply from Dave Winer that got me all cranky – well crankier than usual.

I realize that a lot of folks in the tech world are enamored with Dave Winer; regardless of his well known temper tantrums, and how everything he does is just da’ bomb but the fact that seemingly intelligent people would purposely go out and spend $600.00 on an Apple Mac Mini just so they could play with Dave’s newest toy; which is nothing more than a fancy slide show screensaver to display on you Mac or if your are well off enough your HDTV; is ridiculous.

This was the post to Twitter by Jeff Pulver:

jeffpulver said at 12/30/2007 11:53:37 AM
@davewiner just ordered a mac mini so i can use your app too.

and this was Dave’s reply minutes later:

davewiner said at 12/30/2007 11:55:18 AM
@jeffpulver, that’s awesome! that’s the way to do it.

The fact that someone has enough disposable income to indulge themselves like this is their business – I realize that and not one bit of my cranky opinion makes an iota of difference but come on … $600.00 to have a slide show projector … and that is the principal reason for spending the money. Am I really missing something here?

But there are a couple of other things about this so-called exciting development that also bother me. First though lets follow this through … Buy a Mac Mini should you not have one …. hook it up to your HDTV and if you don’t have one well go and buy it to … install this beta software of Dave … configure it to pull from any photo stream that supports RSS (we won’t even consider the copyright issues here) … and then stream that non-stop to the HDTV which of course has to be running all the time.

Where is this anywhere close to being ecologically responsible eh? Not to mention the added cost of the electricity to keep all that hardware turned on and running. Like I said it must be nice to have that much disposable income or to not care about the effects on the environment.

The other point as well is Dave’s encouragement to break his own EULA (which by the way returns a 404 if you try and access it) which was pointed out by Eye On Winer today:

The FlickrFan EULA makes it very clear that the software is for individual or “internal business” use only. That’s why it’s so odd to see Dave advocating that users violate his EULA just days after the software’s release.

So I’d like to try [FlickrFan] in two new venues to see what happens.

1. In a reception area in an office. Imagine one of the buildings at Microsoft. Or a doctors office, or the lobby of a VC firm. Install a big flatscreen TV on the wall, with a Mac Mini behind it, with a net connection, and let it run. See if people don’t gravitate to it. See if people don’t want to have meetings in the lobby. (I think some might.)

So let’s get this straight. Dave wants companies to go out and buy Mac Minis and HDTVs. He then wants them to install his software thereby breaking the law and then run this all non-stop just so people can see a bunch of pictures.

I’m sorry but this whole concept is nothing short of stupid and not to mention ecologically irresponsible or fiscally dumb. On the flip side Dave could very well single handedly drive up the sales of a piece of Apple hardware whose life expectancy could be cut short at any MacWorld conference.

So Mr. Jobs how about putting Dave on staff and let him spend his commissions on even more Apple goodness. After all he is sending so much business your way it would only be right to return the favor.

Now where did I leave that number to Greenpeace and the Sierra Club?

[image: BusinessWeek]


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